Comments on: Guest Post: Plus ça change, plus c’est … le same Web, only better? http://www.microbiologybytes.com/blog/2007/06/08/guest-post-plus-ca-change-plus-cest-le-same-web-only-better/ The latest news about microbiology Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:34:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MicrobiologyBytes Archive « ViroBlogy http://www.microbiologybytes.com/blog/2007/06/08/guest-post-plus-ca-change-plus-cest-le-same-web-only-better/comment-page-1/#comment-389 MicrobiologyBytes Archive « ViroBlogy Fri, 09 May 2008 12:31:51 +0000 http://microbiologybytes.wordpress.com/2007/06/08/guest-post-plus-ca-change-plus-cest-le-same-web-only-better/#comment-389 [...] Plus ça change, plus c’est … le same Web, only better? [...] [...] Plus ça change, plus c’est … le same Web, only better? [...]

]]> By: Ed Rybicki http://www.microbiologybytes.com/blog/2007/06/08/guest-post-plus-ca-change-plus-cest-le-same-web-only-better/comment-page-1/#comment-386 Ed Rybicki Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:33:30 +0000 http://microbiologybytes.wordpress.com/2007/06/08/guest-post-plus-ca-change-plus-cest-le-same-web-only-better/#comment-386 Brian: Nice to hear there are a few other surviving early sailors of the uncharted Web...! Funny thing is that it has NOT taken off to any huge extent in actual teaching; the Web is still being used as an adjunct to formal teaching modalities. Unfortunately.... Many of us went off and did WebCT and other courses, only to find (a) institutional inertia and (b) student apathy, both act to limit adoption. And as one far wiser than I but now deceased would say - and so it goes.... Best, Ed Brian:

Nice to hear there are a few other surviving early sailors of the uncharted Web…!

Funny thing is that it has NOT taken off to any huge extent in actual teaching; the Web is still being used as an adjunct to formal teaching modalities. Unfortunately…. Many of us went off and did WebCT and other courses, only to find (a) institutional inertia and (b) student apathy, both act to limit adoption.

And as one far wiser than I but now deceased would say – and so it goes….

Best,

Ed

]]> By: Brian Kelly http://www.microbiologybytes.com/blog/2007/06/08/guest-post-plus-ca-change-plus-cest-le-same-web-only-better/comment-page-1/#comment-387 Brian Kelly Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:07:02 +0000 http://microbiologybytes.wordpress.com/2007/06/08/guest-post-plus-ca-change-plus-cest-le-same-web-only-better/#comment-387 Hi Ed I enjoyed reading your post (which, incidentally, I spotted on <a href="http://leicesteruk.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=3036305284&ref=mf" rel="nofollow">ajcann's Facbook account</a>). I was involved in Web development in the UK in the early (from January 1993) and I think it is important that we preserve the history of the development of the Web within our institutions. I am seeing, for example, a repeat of the attidudes taken towards Web 2.0 that were being taken to the Web in 1993-4 (it will never take off, let's stick to what we know - Gopher, etc.) I have written a post about the <a href="http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2007/05/15/further-thoughts-on-www-2007/" rel="nofollow">Wen History strand</a> at the WWW 2007 conference - and I was interviewed when I gave by recollections of this early days. This included work at Leeds University (where I was based at the time) by our chemists who quickly spotted the poetntial of the Web to support chemistry teaching and research One person I met from South Africa, at the first WWW conference held at CERN in May 1994 was Pieter van Brakel - and Google informs me that he helped coordinate the <a href="http://general.rau.ac.za/infosci/www2004/index.asp" rel="nofollow">6th Annual Conference on World Wide Web Applications</a> in 2004. he might still be around to ask about early Web developments in the acadmeic sector in SOuth Africa. Brian Kelly, UKOLN Hi Ed
I enjoyed reading your post (which, incidentally, I spotted on ajcann’s Facbook account).
I was involved in Web development in the UK in the early (from January 1993) and I think it is important that we preserve the history of the development of the Web within our institutions. I am seeing, for example, a repeat of the attidudes taken towards Web 2.0 that were being taken to the Web in 1993-4 (it will never take off, let’s stick to what we know – Gopher, etc.)
I have written a post about the Wen History strand at the WWW 2007 conference – and I was interviewed when I gave by recollections of this early days. This included work at Leeds University (where I was based at the time) by our chemists who quickly spotted the poetntial of the Web to support chemistry teaching and research
One person I met from South Africa, at the first WWW conference held at CERN in May 1994 was Pieter van Brakel – and Google informs me that he helped coordinate the 6th Annual Conference on World Wide Web Applications in 2004. he might still be around to ask about early Web developments in the acadmeic sector in SOuth Africa.

Brian Kelly, UKOLN

]]> By: Ed Rybicki http://www.microbiologybytes.com/blog/2007/06/08/guest-post-plus-ca-change-plus-cest-le-same-web-only-better/comment-page-1/#comment-388 Ed Rybicki Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:02:08 +0000 http://microbiologybytes.wordpress.com/2007/06/08/guest-post-plus-ca-change-plus-cest-le-same-web-only-better/#comment-388 Excellent article...B-) Excellent article…B-)

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